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There is a huge weapon range in New Mexico around White Sands NM near
Alamogordo. When travelling from Las Cruces heading east, they have traffic
signs that notify possible road blocks due to live firing. I guess this must be
a wide restriced or no-fly zone.

rgburk

'The Tucson Coyote' schrieb:

> Barry Cameron wrote in message ...
> >I don't see Microsoft adding a restricted area feature to FS but
> >with the new SDK, it appears possible to control where and how
> >one flies. Here's what I envision.
> >
> >Just like in the real world you can fly anywhere you like. If you
> >fly in a restricted area or if you do other illegal things
> >there's a recorder running in the background that keeps track of
> >essential data such as heading, whereabouts, FL, speed, rate of
> >climb/decent along with internal factors such as rpm, turn rate,
> >etc. Furthermore, you're flying for a VA that requires this data
> >along with your flight log or Pirep. The data is scanned by a
> >program that's preconfigured to flag deviations from allowable
> >limits. When the flag is tripped, the hub commander (who replaces
> >the real world governing body Official) is gonna wanna have a
> >talk with you real quick.
>
> That sounds like an excellent idea..... now if MS could only implement
> this.....
> As for the KAL incident, here is the real scoop....
>
> The pilot first off did not set his onbord FMC correctly resulting in the
> deviation
> Second the Russians thought that the KAL 747 was in actuality a military 727
> recon aircraft....
> Third the incident occurred at night so the russian pilot that were shooting
> at it thought that a 747 was the aforementioned 727 that had drifted in to
> take pics of the Kamchatka missile sites,
>
> So when you add this all up, It was pilot error on the KAL pilot's part, and
> the error of the Russian pilots who did not do a close enough flyby to
> properly ident the vehicle in question....
>
> Errgo, you have a small incident that nearly caused WW3.....
>
> Now as for the Numerous incidents that occur around JSC the reason is simply
> obivious.... There are a bunch of pilots out there who would love to see a
> shuttl launch from just off the coast.... (After the Challenger disaster,
> this downrange 'safety [read as restricted] area was enforced) This is to
> insure that pilots who might be flying downrange of a shuttle launch, don't
> get hurt in case of another 'catastrophic failure, the likes of Challenger,
> were to occur. Now if I read this correctly (they do have military
> controllers that are at the nearby AFB near Kennedy, are supposed to divert
> aircraft from said area, whenever there is such an event, as a launch or
> landing, thereby giving the shuttle free access to KSC without having public
> commercial and private flights hampering either lauch or landing
> operations....
>
> Also other restricted areas in the United states include around AFB that do
> live firings of missiles (Vandenburg AFB in California comes to mind,
> because they are on the launching end of the ICBM Pacific range... Another
> area is near the Marshall islands (Impact point of said launched missiles
> from Vandenburg) .
>
> Are there any other restricted areas I should know about?????
>
> Tucson Coyote....



