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Hi Ron,

Ron Ayton wrote:

> Hi Jason, i find your comments in this post a bit on the offensive side
> to say the least.

>
> In other words, everyone who is not a member of the mighty PRC in your
> opinion, is either a rookie who can't stay on the road, or a bad driver
> who doesn't deserve the honour of racing with the PRC members.
> Sheesh, talk about arrogant.

Chill.

I meant, the Open VROC races are not fun with all the crashes at the
start.

Anyone who wants to enjoy GPL (without the crashing) has to join
a special league (or group).  The PRC is just a group of like minded
drivers -- we don't like people who try to come from last place on the
grid and crash everyone out.  We stress clean driving and passing.

As for the rookies.  I'm sure they don't want to crash people out, but
just haven't developed the skill to be consistant yet.

>
> I hope you made a mistake in your wording of this post, or my opinion
> of you has just took a rather large down turn.
> I feel you should have added a 4th group of racers to your comments,
> like:  "The rest of the sim world that are good clean racers and just
> do not want, or wish to part of the PRC."

Ok not being a part of the PRC is fine.  But those people must be searching

for other 'leagues' I'm sure.

>
> I run in a league called the GMSS, and i know i have never raced
> against a cleaner or better class of driver than is presently located
> in our league.

See.  You found open races to be horrible and had to search for a
group of clean drivers.  The GMSS does that for you.

I believe Micheal Carver is a member of the GMSS group and PRC,
and allows both racers into his Monday race.

>
> There are plenty of other leagues that are not part of the PRC as well,
> and i am sure they are just as clean and capable of good racing as ANY
> member of the PRC, so how do you get off on saying if your not a member
> of the PRC you are either a "Rookie who can't stay on the road", or a
> "Bad Driver" .. ?

I should have made that clearer.  PRC means you want to drive clean, but of

course that can be found in ANY other league or group.

>
> There is more to sim racing life than the PRC.
> I wonder if you could clarify this post or reword it a bit better, as
> the way you have stated it, simply sucks!

I mostly post while at work and may not always get my ideas across
perfectly.  Like right now, I should be leaving -- its after 5pm and
I need to get home to support another client by phone at 6pm :-)


>
> Cheers, and have a nice day, from a bad rookie driver.
> Ron

Would you be in the GMSS if you were a bad driver?  Probably not.

>
> ps..  if you did make a mistake in the wording of this post, then i
> apologise for my outburst, but if what you said is in your opinion
> true, then i stand by this post...

I hope I cleared this up.  It was a partial misunderstanding.

The PRC is a group of over 100 drivers who like to race clean.
That is all.  I'm sure you like to race clean, that would put you
in the 'PRC' group even though you are in the GMSS.  Wouldn't
the GMSS kick out drivers who were careless and crashed
people out every race?


>
>
> Jason Monds <no.jason.extra@streamdata.spork.com> wrote in article
> <36D5A89F.B62E6FB0@streamdata.spork.com>...
> > Hi Mapson,
> >
> > You don't need a password for the recruiting races.  That's why I
> hold them
> > in the Open rooms :-)   If you are interested in attending, just tell
> me that
> > you like to 'try out' (during practice) and make sure I have your
> email address.
> >
> > I figure there are 3 kinds of drivers in GPL.  Those who are members
> of
> > PRC (Pro Racing Club) and those who are not members are the bad
> > drivers we are trying to keep out of our races :)  The other group
> are
> > rookies that need more practice to stay on the road, but would make
> > fine members one day.
> >
> > To be a member you not have to be fast, just clean.  Latency is
> important
> > as well because we race mainly PRO races.  The recruiting race is a
> > chance for me to see you in action and check latency.
> >
> > Once your accepted into the group you get our passwords :-)
> >
> > That should cover it.
> >
> > Jason.
> >
> > Mapson wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:53:35 -0700, Jason Monds
> > > <no.jason.extra@streamdata.spork.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On a good note, I will be hosting PRC recruiting race(s) Thursday
> 10pm EST
> > > >on VROC in the Open2 room to try and minimize the number of
> rookies that
> > > >join.
> > >
> > > How do we get the password? ;-)
> >
> > --
> > --------
> > Jason Monds
> > "My other car is a Ferrari"
> > http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake
> setups
> > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
> >
> >
> >

Is this my first flame?  If not, it must be the 2nd on the same topic too.

--
--------
Jason Monds
"My other car is a Ferrari"
http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake setups
(Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)


