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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:16:43 -0800
From: Chris <Scumbag@diediedie.com>
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This was on f1racingsim.com's forum  (http://www.f1racingsim.com/forum.htm) and
the title was "BEEFING UP the Logitech pedals...here's how."  The original
author was a guy named HILLY100.

------------Quoted text-----------------
I have just changed the springs in the pedals and it is a HUGE improvement.
I used some watertap springs that I had lying around in garage; you know the
springs that are behind the plastic wall taps(eg. shower, bath...etc). They are
perfect because they are firm and slightly larger in diameter than the originals
but taper just at the end which fit the lobes exactly. I have 3 on the brake and
1
on the accelerator. To get 3 springs on the one pedal is just a matter of
screwing one on top of the other...a bit like tangling up a slinky :)
The pedal travel seams to be the same but the tension is REALLY, REALLY firm
which allows for greater overall accuracy.
A good tip is to hold the pedal unit upsidedown on your lap when you do it. The
spings are so firm that you'll have to pull the pedal down with one hand to
stop the pots from popping out of the plastic footings at the same time as
relocating the springs with the base...It's a bit of a struggle but worth it!
So head on down to your local Hardware/Pumbing supplier and get em!
CHEERS
HILLY100
-------------End Quoted Text------------

I read on the force-1.com forum that you can get the springs easily enough from
Home Despot (errr... Depot) - He recommended "Handyman Springs" model #
SP-9713.  He had to cut them in half because they were too long, but they work
great for him.

Hope that helps,

-Chris

Barry Stoch wrote:

> Geoff, thanks for your comments. About the pedals, which seems to be the
> major gripe about this wheel, I think I read that someone had replaced the
> springs with stronger ones. Didn't pay much attn at the time but am now very
> interested in this wheel. Would you, or the person who wrote that post, be
> able to tell me if this is difficult, ie are the springs used common so that
> stronger ones would be easily obtainable? Thxs.
>
> Should crematoriums give discounts for burn victims?
> If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?
> If most car accidents occur within five miles of home, why doesn't
> everyone just move 10 miles away?
> Atheism is a nonprophet organization.
>
> Barry Stoch - Warped Racing
>
> Geoff Stahl wrote in message <3675517c.523835766@news.digex.net>...
> >On 14 Dec 1998 16:42:05 GMT, steveblank@aol.comedy (SteveBlank) wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>window.  You don't need a special setup for GP2 either, except that you
> need to
> >>set the pedals on combined axis before running the game.  GP2 supports
> separate
> >>axis pedals, but I haven't gotten the Wingman to work that way yet.
> Logitech's
> >>tech support haven't responded to my email on the above problems so far,
> so
> >>they may yet have something to offer.  I'll post it to this thread if so.
> >>
> >Steve,
> >
> >I spoke to Tom (the logitechdriver software engineer) and we dicussed
> >the spereate axis problem.  As you mention, the WFF works great on GPL
> >but fails to support seperate axis on things like GP2, Motorhead, and
> >Powerslide.
> >
> >The problem is the driver assigment of axis.  The decision was made
> >(based on Microsoft's wheel axis assignments) to use X, Z and R for
> >steering, accel, and brake controls respectively.  Many sims want to
> >see X, Yand Z instead and thus never even see the WFF's brake.
> >
> >Logitech is looking at solutions but until a patch to the drivers or
> >the sims is released I would suspect that combined accel and brake is
> >all that will work.
> >
> >Hope this helps.
> >
> >Maybe e-mail to logitech tech support indicating that folks want the
> >ability to set the axis mapping and maybe they will put it in. (I
> >would not suspect tech support has any idea about the underlying axis
> >mapping problem though, so asking them about may come up empty)
> >
> >I actually want to see it, and the combined or seperate axis check
> >box, moved to the profiler to make it a per game selection vice an
> >overall selection.
> >
> >One more thing.  Overall the logitech wheel is awesome.  The pedals
> >have a light spring and the pedals must be combined in some games, but
> >other than these rether minor gripes the package, in my opinion, is
> >the best out there for the money.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Geoff Stahl

