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I got my instrument rating about a year ago at Sporty's Academy - Hawaii.
It
was a good value. The price includes all flight and ground instruction,
you
must have passe the written before attending, you should also have your
cross-country time flown. Tuition also includes the hotel room. The course

is nominally 12 days.

Instruction was first rate. Having experienced several flight schools over

the years, I haven't encountered any as professional as Sporty's.

Instrument flying is a combination of precision and procedure. The
procedures you learn in ground school studying and in flight training.
Precision (airspeed, altitude, heading, tracking) comes from practice,
practice practice. Learn everything you can in ground training (not just
enough to pass the written, but to understand the system), fly surgically
precise, and the rest should come to you relatively painlessly.

The reason to go to Sporty's Hawaii is the excellent training. You can
enjoy
Hawaii before or after your training and, if you travel with someone, they

can enjoy the place while you're flying. In foggles, Hawaii looks about
the
same as Nebraska.

Good luck.

JJF

woodb@home.com wrote:

> The concentrated instrument courses have a very good track record, and
> being a product of one myself, can vouch for them as a concept.
>
> People will tell you all kinds of things about how terrible they are,
> how unsafe, how they don't train you very well, how they don't do blah
> blah blah.  Well, I guess it depends too on how you use the rating
> once you get it.  If you continue to fly conscientiously, either stay
> current by flying or get your IPC's every six months, I don't know
> where the problem is.  I got my rating last August, just took my IPC a
> couple weeks ago and had no trouble whatsoever.
>
> I'd say get the test out of the way, then go to one of the zillions of
> places out there that offer 10 day courses...after looking into them.
> Get a copy of their syllabi, talk to the instructors, etc...then go do
> it.  If I had to get the rating again, I wouldn't go to the same place
> again, but I would definitley do a concentrated course.  No doubt.  I
> doubt that you will find many people who HAVE done it that way who
> said that they wouldn't recommend it.
>
> Brad
>
> On 19 Feb 1999 13:46:11 GMT, laird@tsunami.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler
> Laird) wrote:
>
> >I have an ambitious (naive/stupid/...?) goal.  I'm
> >trying to get a rating each month.  My plan:
> >       January:        PP ASEL (done)
> >       February:       PP AMEL (done)
> >       March:          Instrument ASEL (in progress)
> >       April:          Instrument AMEL
> >       May:            Commercial ASEL
> >       June:           Commercial AMEL
> >
> >       Then on to CFI...
> >
> >The instructor with whom I've been working on my
> >Instrument (There will be three that I'll use.)
> >indicated that getting the Instrument in a month
> >or so was bordering on unreasonable.  He explained
> >that the students in the Professional Pilot
> >program here (at Purdue) spend over a year on it.
> >
> >I, however, am a product of advertising on the
> >subject.  I regularly receive flyers for weekend
> >ground schools - start to finish Instrument
> >written in a weekend.  I'm auditing an Aviation
> >Technology course right now - Instrument Flying
> >Lectures - so a weekend class that assumes I know
> >(next to) nothing going in should be a breeze,
> >right?
> >
> >Of course the real challenge is the checkride.
> >I've had a couple of Instrument lessons already,
> >and I'm trying to get at least one in every day.
> >Again, I see ads for "Instrument ratings in 10
> >days!" so it seems like I should be able to
> >finish up in about a week if I need to - those
> >courses seem to assume little except that the
> >written has been passed and the PIC flights are
> >done.
> >
> >So...am I missing something?  I'm considering
> >signing up for a weekend written course and then
> >an accelerated flight course at the end of
> >March.  If I keep working on it at the normal
> >(non-accelerated) pace that I'm at now (lectures
> >4 hours/week, flights ~6 hours/week) and then
> >hit it at the end with an accelerated course, am
> >I likely to succeed?  Is there something else I
> >should consider?
> >
> >Any recommendations for finish-up training will
> >be appreciated.  I don't think I'll be able to
> >just hire someone to come here because all of
> >the rental aircraft here require an FBO-approved
> >instructor, and we're still waiting (on the GNS
> >430) to make our Aztec instrument-able.  I'm
> >especially interested in training in the Florida
> >area.  (That's where the Aztec is scheduled for
> >avionics installation any day now.)
> >
> >BTW, the main reason I want this so quickly is
> >so that I will be insurable in the Aztec.  It's
> >not that I have a burning desire to launch into
> >the clouds.  (I think that having the training
> >will make me a safer VMC pilot, though.)
> >
> >Thank you for your thoughts.
> >
> >--kyler

