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Joseph Bowen wrote:
 
> It's the "return to runway" exercise.  Fly out to a road with a 
> straight stretch - consider it the runway.  Get to 1500 agl.  

Why 1500 agl?  If you're concerned about spinning, that's not
a lot of room to recover.  If you're concerned about really
getting the effect of trees rushing at you in the turn, that's
pretty high.

I think it's a good exercise, and every pilot should do it
regularly, but IMO the point is to set personal minimums for
a turnback altitude, by figuring out how much altitude you
personally in the plane you're flying, seem to need.  If you're 
really worried about spinning in a 45 degree bank, go up and
just practice coordinated 45 degree banks at Vbg.  (For that matter,
practice stalling from a coordinated 45 degree bank; now practice
stalling from a skidded 20 deg. bank, ball 1/2 width out or so.  Which
is more likely to spin?)

Remember "no yaw no spin".

But again, the point (IMO) is to figure out personal minimums, and
if a 45 degree bank strikes you as "spin city" just figure out how
much altitude you would need to turn back if you stick with 30 degree
banks.

> Really, really, really be prepared to spin the plane.  You will be 
> executing the second most deadly maneuver in GA.  By far the better 
> statistics for engine failure during climbout is to go forward and fly > it controlled into whatever is there.  

I kind of think any strict prescription is a poor idea.  Sometimes
what's forward as you take off is not survivable, but what's off
to the sides at 90 degrees is, and this takes less altitude.

As for really really be prepared to spin the plane, see above.

Snowbird


