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Subject: Re: Clouds and Pattern Work
From: jbolinger@lintek.com (J L Bolinger)
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In article <6vboqd$1vn$1@newshost.ihighway.net>, hilton@stellarsemi.com says...
>
>Hi,
>
>>Does an ASOS report ceilings as AGL or MSL?
>
>Ceilings are AGL.  You needed 500' below the bases.  If you do decide to go
>in these conditions, it is worthwhile to ask an Instructor where the
>instrument approaches are.  Take a look at his plates for 4I9 and ask him to
>briefly explain them to you.  Remember, you need to stay 500' below the
>bases to prevent you running into a plane popping out of the clouds on an
>instrument approach.  Since you would 'only' be 500' away, I would suggest
>knowing where the likely places are from which the aircraft will pop out of
>the clouds.
>
>Also, instrument pilots make an unfortunate habit of talking 'instrumentese'
>which VFR pilots do not understand.  After having looked at the approach
>plates, you will know where the inbound aircraft is when he says:
>
>"4I9 Traffic, cessna 123 inbound on the VOR alpha approach, 5 miles out"
>
>Always use caution when operating near clouds.  Could you see, recognise,
>make a decision, take evasive action, and miss the aircraft if one were to
>pop out anywhere at any time?  If not, you're too close.  Also, don't assume
>you will see the aircraft immediately.  You may be looking the other way, at
>your checklist, GPS, or sectional.
>
>Having said that, enjoy that pattern work.
>
>Hilton
>
>
>


So far, there has only been one time that I had to 'share' the pattern
with another aircraft.  Some one in a c170 departed straight out after
my take off.  Usually the place is pretty quiet.

Per another posting here, I was also concerned about the visibility dropping
as it got on towards evening since the temperature spread was only 5 degrees.

Jim

